Curse

a-kyle · Dec 16, 2009, 07:52 PM // 19:52

I was going to make a E/A for farming purposes for winters-day and other event weekends, but in all honesty if and when SF gets nerfed whats the point? what will replace it? Mist Form?

gone · Dec 16, 2009, 07:53 PM // 19:53

back to terra tank

Perkunas · Dec 16, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Instead of asking what next, make the what next.

a-kyle · Dec 16, 2009, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Whats a terra tank?

Teknikaali · Dec 16, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by Perkunas

Instead of asking what next, make the what next.

/agreed on this one. Be the one.

Swahnee · Dec 16, 2009, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by a-kyle

Whats a terra tank?

This:

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:E/Me_Obby_Flesh_Tank

Axel Zinfandel · Dec 16, 2009, 08:22 PM // 20:22

SAme as what always happens. It'll go back to old methods until someone makes something more efficiant.

Turk The Legendary · Dec 16, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

lol this sf nerf talk is getting rediculous. Even if they do nerf it, im sure it will still be highly abusable and if not who cares, it should be nerfed anyway

Lord Dagon · Dec 16, 2009, 09:09 PM // 21:09

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD

The Drunkard · Dec 16, 2009, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by itachimizu

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD

I call BS

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Critical_Defenses

give me +1 tyvm

Grunntar · Dec 16, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by itachimizu

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD

English is such a wonderful language! I highly suggest that you give it try sometime!

Would you care to expand on your comment, so that other people could actually understand the statement? (Please? I know that you are trying to something, and I'd kinda like to know it is.) Ideas on a possible change to this skill would be interesting to read.

Steps_Descending · Dec 16, 2009, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Let's see... Obsi still works (you can take a bit of damage once in a while, remember?), Prot spirit/bond can still keep you alive for a while, Rit spirits can also help cover a bit (actually most rit buffes are unremovable so...), VwK variations... Then there's all the DPS-race builds : a bit of protection (blind, prot spirit, shield of protection,...) with a good damage output (remember : those build won't help you tank, but anyone can tank a dead monster)... And for lower end farming : warrior stances!

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Originally Posted by itachimizu

and anyway.. i have a friend that has like a cusin(not sure on the relationship) that works w/ the live team and Anet(or NCsoft) that the team plans on making SF a block chance.. i have no way to prove this but thats just what i heard... so ignore or beleive this as u want.. i only report on whats happening xD

If there is any kind of truth in this, it's very good news! But there's already flashing blade... With some (a lot) of luck, it wil be a damage redux or will protect from spells a bit.

Cuilan · Dec 16, 2009, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Good luck using a slow moving build. Maybe try something other than tank and spank.

Johny bravo · Dec 16, 2009, 09:51 PM // 21:51

There are other builds. For Doa 3 man 600/smite can already do foundry and city in under 40 min I am sure the 600 tank can be worked into some other team builds to act as a tank. Might not be as fast but look at UW, they are down to 30 min already after the skeletons and Dhuum were introduced. FowSC is down to 11 min.

mrvrod · Dec 16, 2009, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo

There are other builds. For Doa 3 man 600/smite can already do foundry and city in under 40 min I am sure the 600 tank can be worked into some other team builds to act as a tank. Might not be as fast but look at UW, they are down to 30 min already after the skeletons and Dhuum were introduced. FowSC is down to 11 min.

That's just way too fast! I hope they nerf 600 next.

Ambitious · Dec 16, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Grunntar

English is such a wonderful language! I highly suggest that you give it try sometime!

Would you care to expand on your comment, so that other people could actually understand the statement? (Please? I know that you are trying to say something, and I'd kinda like to know what it is.) Ideas on a possible change to this skill would be interesting to read.

Looks like you're missing some words there, Oh Master Of The English Language.

Esprit · Dec 16, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23

People need to remember that Guild Wars exists all over the world and that while English is required on this forum, it does not mean that non-US people are posting and that English may be a second or third language. So, figure out if the person is fluent in English before you bash their spelling and grammar.

Back on topic, I doubt that people will go back to Obsidian Flesh tanks, because it pretty much destroys much of the "speed" part of Speed Clear. If Shadow Form changes I imagine people will still find it is the dominant skill used in clears just with modifications or extra support characters.

SomeSayImFamous · Dec 16, 2009, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by mrvrod

That's just way too fast! I hope they nerf 600 next.

Fyi. For them to nerf 600 they need to blow up 4 skills and also they wont nerf 600, Monks cant do any other farm other then 55, Sins can still use mobius, and farm mobs, Eles will still do mistform or terra, and I could go on forever but seriously they will not nerf 600, they would have nerf 3-4 highly useable skills in pve. so

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 16, 2009, 10:32 PM // 22:32

hopefully there will be nothing that can suitably replace SF

or else having nefred it would have been pointless

Reformed · Dec 16, 2009, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by SomeSayImFamous

Fyi. For them to nerf 600 they need to blow up 4 skills and also they wont nerf 600...but seriously they will not nerf 600, they would have nerf 3-4 highly useable skills in pve. so

Not that I want to see yet another good farming tool get butchered but what outside of extreme niche play are you using Retribution and/or Holy Wrath for?